{"id":1027366,"date":"2023-11-05T17:23:45","date_gmt":"2023-11-05T14:23:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/darkamazi.site\/?p=1027366"},"modified":"2023-11-05T17:23:45","modified_gmt":"2023-11-05T14:23:45","slug":"dejavu-etkisi-iki-karayilan-iki-sehir-iki-zafer-iki-gerilla-peki-hangisi-dogru","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/darkamazi.site\/archives\/1027366","title":{"rendered":"Dejavu etkisi: \u0130ki Karay\u0131lan, iki \u015fehir, iki zafer, iki gerilla peki hangisi do\u011fru?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify\">HPG Ana kararg\u00e2h komutan\u0131 Murat Karay\u0131lan sava\u015f\u0131n son durumuna d\u00f6n\u00fck a\u00e7\u0131klamalar yapt\u0131. Karay\u0131lan\u2019\u0131n a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131na g\u00f6re PKK T\u00fcrk ordusunu b\u00fcy\u00fck oranda s\u0131k\u0131\u015ft\u0131rm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. \u00a0T\u00fcrk ordusu PKK kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131nda ad\u0131m atmamaktad\u0131r. Hatta T\u00fcrk ordusu o kadar s\u0131k\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r ki KDP\u2019den yard\u0131m istemek zorunda kalm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. PKK \u015eeladize\u2019nin 6-7 km uza\u011f\u0131ndaki Sida\u2019da T\u00fcrk ordusuna k\u00f6k s\u00f6kt\u00fcrm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Karay\u0131lan\u2019\u0131n konu\u015fmas\u0131nda Zap\u2019\u0131n Bat\u0131 cephesinde hi\u00e7bir T\u00fcrk askeri noktas\u0131 olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 da yer al\u0131yor. Ayr\u0131ca Cudi tepesi, Amediye tepesi, gibi onlarca isimle de sava\u015f\u0131 anlat\u0131yor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">\u0130nsan dinlerken \u015fa\u015f\u0131r\u0131yor, \u201csanki bunu daha \u00f6nce de dinledik\u201d diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyor. Hatta kendine soruyor acaba Dejavu mu ya\u015f\u0131yoruz.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Dejavu nedir? Hepimiz hayat\u0131m\u0131zda bir kere ya\u015far\u0131z, \u00a0bir yerdeyken aniden daha \u00f6nce de ayn\u0131 an\u0131 ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcr\u00fcz. \u0130\u015fte buna Dejavu deniyor. Frans\u0131zca bir kelime, &#8220;daha \u00f6nce g\u00f6r\u00fcld\u00fc&#8221; olarak T\u00fcrk\u00e7e&#8217;ye \u00e7evirilir ve bir olay\u0131 ya da bir an\u0131 daha \u00f6nce ya\u015fam\u0131\u015f olma duygusu olarak izah edilir. T\u0131p bunun beyindeki sinir sistemleri ile izah eder.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Karay\u0131lan\u2019\u0131n 2 Ekim 2023 tarihinde Sterk TV\u2019deki Sida\u2019da zafer kazan\u0131l\u0131yor s\u00f6zlerini dinlerken tam olarak \u201cben bunu daha \u00f6nce dinlemi\u015ftim\u201d dedim. Fakat bizimki beynimizin bize oynad\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir dejavu etkisi de\u011fildi. Ger\u00e7ekten de iki tane ayn\u0131 olaydan vard\u0131. Daha do\u011frusu iki tane Karay\u0131lan vard\u0131.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>Birinci Karay\u0131lan \u015eemzinan\u2019da: S\u0131n\u0131r\u0131n \u00f6tesi berisi kalmad\u0131<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">2 A\u011fustos 2012 tarihinde, yani 11 y\u0131l 3 ay \u00f6nce \u015funlar\u0131 s\u00f6ylemi\u015f: Karay\u0131lan: \u201cYani sen gelip, s\u0131n\u0131r \u00fczerinde, s\u0131n\u0131r\u0131n her iki taraf\u0131ndaki halk\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 bu kadar top at\u0131\u015f\u0131na tabii tutacaksan o zaman gerilla senin yan\u0131na gelir. \u015eimdi s\u0131n\u0131r\u0131n 35 km i\u00e7erisindeki \u015eemdinli\u2019nin etraf\u0131nda gerilla vard\u0131r. B\u00f6ylece art\u0131k s\u0131n\u0131r \u00f6tesi s\u0131n\u0131r berisi de hik\u00e2yeye d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr. Zaten gerilla \u015eemdinli\u2019nin yak\u0131n zeminlerinde mevzilenmi\u015f durumdad\u0131r. Buna kar\u015f\u0131 T\u00fcrk ordusunun gerillay\u0131 oradan s\u00f6kme m\u00fcdahaleleri \u015fimdiye kadar bozguna u\u011fram\u0131\u015f durumdad\u0131r. Durum budur. \u00c7ok\u00e7a bahsettikleri Goman Da\u011f\u0131 \u015eemdinli \u015fehir merkezinin \u00fcst\u00fcndeki tepedir. Yani 1 km bilemedin 2 km mesafedeki bir yerdir. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla yine o civar tepelerde gerilla mevzilenmi\u015f bulunmaktad\u0131r.!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Demek ki 1. Karay\u0131lan Kuzey s\u0131n\u0131r\u0131n\u0131n 35 km ilerisini tutuklar\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yl\u00fcyordu. O d\u00f6nem gerilla tepeleri ve yollar\u0131 tutuyor, her yerde kimlik kontrol\u00fc yap\u0131yordu. \u015eemzinan\u2019\u0131 ku\u015fatma operasyonlar\u0131 d\u00fczenliyordu.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>\u0130kinci Karay\u0131lan \u015eeladize\u2019de: Sava\u015f \u015eeladize\u2019nin 6-7 km uza\u011f\u0131nda <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Karay\u0131lan 11 y\u0131l \u00fc\u00e7 ay sonra ise yine zafer s\u00f6zlerini tekrar ediyor. Ama bu kez \u015eemdinli de de\u011fil \u015eeladize\u2019de. Vu \u015funu diyor \u201cSida k\u00f6y\u00fc \u015eeladize\u2019nin 5-6 km uza\u011f\u0131nda orada t\u00fcnelimiz var. Orada T\u00fcrk ordusunu bozguna u\u011fratt\u0131k.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">\u015eeladize mi? Hani siz \u015eemdinli\u2019deydiniz.\u00a0 \u015eemdinli ile \u015eeladize aras\u0131 ku\u015f u\u00e7u\u015fu 180 km. Bak\u0131n da\u011flar\u0131n ovalar\u0131n derinliklerini saym\u0131yoruz, ku\u015f u\u00e7u\u015fu diyoruz. Demek ki Karay\u0131lan 11 y\u0131l i\u00e7inde ku\u015f u\u00e7u\u015fu s\u0131n\u0131r\u0131 ge\u00e7mi\u015f, \u015eikefta Birindaray\u0131, \u00c7em\u00e7\u00f6y\u00fc, Zap Vardisini,\u00a0 Kurejaro\u2019yu hepsini ge\u00e7mi\u015f, 200 km geriye gelmi\u015f. \u015eeladize\u2019de ba\u015far\u0131 hikayesi anlat\u0131yor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>Devaju de\u011fil yalan hikayesi<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Demek beynimiz bize oyun oynam\u0131yor, ortada bir dejavu yok, ortada bir hakikat var, \u00a0\u015eemdinli\u2019den \u015eeladize\u2019ye s\u00fcr\u00fclme var. Ortada bir yalan hikayesi var. O tarihten bu yana da o yalan hikayesi devam ediyor. Karay\u0131lan\u2019\u0131n sava\u015f ve gerillan\u0131n durumu, t\u00fcnel takti\u011fi \u00fczerine kulland\u0131\u011f\u0131 tek bir c\u00fcmle do\u011fru de\u011fildir. Her bir c\u00fcmlesi yaland\u0131r. Karay\u0131lan hi\u00e7 y\u00fcz\u00fc k\u0131zarmadan \u201czafer doktrini, K\u00fcrdistan savunmas\u0131\u201d diyor. O da yaland\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Evet PKK sava\u015fta yenilmi\u015ftir. Kuzey K\u00fcrdistan\u2019da sava\u015f yoktur. PKK bir zamanlar kontrol etti\u011fi topraklar\u0131n hepsini T\u00fcrk devletine vermi\u015ftir. Biz bunu s\u00f6yledi\u011fimiz zaman bize \u201csiz T\u00fcrk devletinin adam\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z, T\u00fcrk devletini savunuyorsunuz\u201d deniyor. Hay\u0131r. Tam tersi biz K\u00fcrtlerin bu ger\u00e7e\u011fi g\u00f6rmesini istiyoruz. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc PKK\u2019nin \u201cZafer kazan\u0131yoruz, direniyoruz\u201d yalan\u0131 sadece K\u00fcrtlere zarar veriyor. Bu yalan art\u0131k ortaya \u00e7\u0131kmal\u0131 ki K\u00fcrt gen\u00e7leri bu anlams\u0131z sava\u015f i\u00e7in \u00f6lmesin. Bu halk kaybedilmi\u015f bir sava\u015f i\u00e7in bedel \u00f6demesin. PKK bu yenilgisi ile K\u00fcrtlerin kazan\u0131m\u0131 K\u00fcrdistan B\u00f6lgesi ve Pe\u015fmerge m\u00fccadelesine sald\u0131rmas\u0131n.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">T\u00fcrk devleti zaten sava\u015f medyan\u0131n da bu nedenle zaten nereyi al\u0131p almad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7ok biliyor. \u00a0Behdinan halk\u0131 PKK\u2019nin art\u0131k Haftanin\u2019de Xaxurk\u2019ta, Berwari Bala\u2019da Zap\u2019ta olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 biliyor. Kuzey\u2019de ve Avrupa\u2019da ki halk Karay\u0131lan \u201cSida\u2019da D\u0131md\u0131m kalesi gibi direni\u015f var\u201d dedi\u011finde san\u0131yor ki Sida K\u00fcrdistan\u2019\u0131n en stratejik yeridir. Oysa ki Sida eni 5 metre boyu 30-40 metrelik darac\u0131k bir vadidir. Sava\u015fta hi\u00e7bir anlam\u0131 yoktur. Fakat sava\u015f\u0131n art\u0131k Sida\u2019da verilmi\u015f olmas\u0131 elinizde hi\u00e7bir da\u011f\u0131n, y\u00fckseltinin hi\u00e7bir stratejik yerin olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6sterir.<br \/>\n<strong>Karay\u0131lan\u2019n\u0131n tek bir s\u00f6z\u00fc do\u011fru de\u011fildir<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Karay\u0131lan\u2019\u0131n r\u00f6portaj\u0131ndaki s\u00f6ylemlerin hi\u00e7biri do\u011fru de\u011fildir. Tek tek s\u00f6ylesek roman \u00e7\u0131kar.<br \/>\nMesela Karay\u0131lan diyor ki \u201cMesela 2022 sava\u015f\u0131nda T\u00fcrk devletinin 11 sava\u015f helikopteri vuruldu, imha edildi; 80 helikopter de darbelendi. Darbe yedi, ate\u015f y\u00fckseldi; indirme yapamad\u0131, geri gitti. Belki yolda d\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr ya da yerine ula\u015fm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Toplam 91 sava\u015f helikopteri ve Skorsky darbelendi. Bu y\u0131l olmad\u0131. Darbelenen belki 4-5 tanedir. D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcr\u00fclen yoktur. Neden? \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc bu y\u0131l arazide indirmiyor, KDP karargahlar\u0131nda indiriyor.\u201d<br \/>\nKaray\u0131lan\u2019\u0131n bu s\u00f6z\u00fc tamaman yaland\u0131r. T\u00fcrk devleti art\u0131k eskisi gibi indirme yapm\u0131yor. Neden? \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc zaten art\u0131k t\u00fcm zirveleri tutmu\u015f indirme yapmaya gerek yoktur. T\u00fcrk devleti \u00c7ukurca\u2019dan yol yapm\u0131\u015f Zap\u2019a, Ava\u015fin k\u0131y\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 de\u011fin yol getirmi\u015f.\u00a0 \u00c7ukurcadan \u00e7\u0131kan bir askeri konvoy geni\u015f yollardan ge\u00e7erek Zap\u2019a de\u011fin geliyor.<br \/>\nKaray\u0131lan\u2019\u0131n s\u00f6z\u00fcn etti\u011fi Sida\u2019daki dozerler nerden gitti? \u015eeladize\u2019den de\u011fil, Amediye\u2019den de\u011fil, Deralukten de\u011fil. O dozerler \u00c7ukurcadan geldi.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">G\u00fcney\u2019den T\u00fcrk askerine giden tek bir ara\u00e7, tank, yard\u0131m yoktur. PKK ancak biraz harita oyunu, biraz kamera oyunu ile kendi yalan\u0131na meteryal yaratmaktad\u0131r. Karay\u0131lan\u2019\u0131n, Duran Kalkan\u2019\u0131n, Cemil Bay\u0131k\u2019\u0131n ve hepsinin T\u00fcrk askeri KDP\u2019ye i\u00e7 i\u00e7e kal\u0131yor s\u00f6zlerinin hi\u00e7bir ger\u00e7e\u011fi yoktur.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Ne HPG\u2019nin ne de PKK\u2019nin \u201czafer doktrini\u201d yoktur. PKK sadece elindeki silahl\u0131 K\u00fcrdistan halk\u0131n\u0131n kendini y\u00f6netmesine kar\u015f\u0131 olan \u015eii, Arap ve T\u00fcrki g\u00fc\u00e7lere pazarlayarak kendi \u00f6rg\u00fctsel yap\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 korumak, y\u00f6neticilerine ya\u015fam yeri a\u00e7mak, kendi parti sistemini devam ettirmek istiyor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">PKK KDP-T\u00fcrkiye ayn\u0131 karargah\u0131 kullan\u0131yor s\u00f6zleri K\u00fcrdistan B\u00f6lgesi ve onunu teminat\u0131 olan KDP ve Pe\u015fmerge g\u00fc\u00e7lerini Ha\u015fdi \u015eabi milislerinin me\u015fru hedefi haline getirmek i\u00e7indir.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>HPG Ana kararg\u00e2h komutan\u0131 Murat Karay\u0131lan sava\u015f\u0131n son durumuna d\u00f6n\u00fck a\u00e7\u0131klamalar yapt\u0131. Karay\u0131lan\u2019\u0131n a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131na g\u00f6re PKK T\u00fcrk ordusunu b\u00fcy\u00fck oranda s\u0131k\u0131\u015ft\u0131rm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. \u00a0T\u00fcrk ordusu PKK kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131nda ad\u0131m atmamaktad\u0131r. Hatta T\u00fcrk ordusu o kadar s\u0131k\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r ki KDP\u2019den yard\u0131m istemek zorunda kalm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. PKK \u015eeladize\u2019nin 6-7 km uza\u011f\u0131ndaki Sida\u2019da T\u00fcrk ordusuna k\u00f6k s\u00f6kt\u00fcrm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr. 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