{"id":1031709,"date":"2024-11-08T21:45:21","date_gmt":"2024-11-08T18:45:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/darkamazi.site\/?p=1031709"},"modified":"2024-11-08T21:45:21","modified_gmt":"2024-11-08T18:45:21","slug":"son-kurt-prensi-dr-kamiran-bedirxan-ile-soylesi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/darkamazi.site\/archives\/1031709","title":{"rendered":"\u2018Son K\u00fcrt Prensi\u2019, Dr. Kamiran Bedirxan ile s\u00f6yle\u015fi"},"content":{"rendered":"

Kamiran Bedirxan\u2019\u0131n, Barbro Karabuda ile 1962 y\u0131l\u0131nda yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 s\u00f6yle\u015finin metni ve g\u00f6r\u00fcnt\u00fcleri yay\u0131nland\u0131. S\u00f6yle\u015fide Bedirxan, K\u00fcrtlerin durumu ve Barzani hareketi hakk\u0131nda bilgi de veriyor.<\/em><\/p>\n

Cizira Botan Miri Bedirxan Pa\u015fa\u2019n\u0131n torunlar\u0131ndan Mir Kamuran Bedirxan, K\u00fcrt dili ve edebiyat\u0131 alan\u0131nda bir\u00e7ok esere imza att\u0131.<\/p>\n

Osmanl\u0131\u2019n\u0131n son d\u00f6neminde \u00f6ne \u00e7\u0131kan Kamiran Bedirxan\u2019\u0131n 1962 y\u0131l\u0131nda \u0130sve\u00e7li gazeteci Barbro Karabuda\u2019ya verdi\u011fi s\u00f6yle\u015fi Botan Times\u2019ta\u00a0yay\u0131nland\u0131<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Botan Times\u2019dan yap\u0131lan a\u00e7\u0131klamada \u015f\u00f6yle denildi:<\/p>\n

\u201dK\u00fcrtler hakk\u0131nda ara\u015ft\u0131rma yapan ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131lar i\u00e7in faydal\u0131 olacak bu kay\u0131t ayn\u0131 zamanda Dr. Kamiran Al\u00ee Bedirhan\u2019\u0131n \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131 bilen hayranlar\u0131 i\u00e7in de g\u00fczel bir s\u00fcrpriz. Say\u0131n Alakom\u2019a bu ara\u015ft\u0131rmas\u0131 i\u00e7in minnet ve sayg\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 sunarken, yaz\u0131y\u0131 ve s\u00f6yle\u015finin tamam\u0131n\u0131 hem video hem yaz\u0131l\u0131 sunuyoruz\u2026\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

Rohat Alakom\u2019<\/strong><\/em>un r\u00f6portajla ilgili yaz\u0131s\u0131 ise \u015f\u00f6yle:<\/p>\n

Barbro Karabuda\u2019n\u0131n Kamiran Bedirxan ile yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 bu r\u00f6portaja dair ilk kez \u0130sve\u00e7 gazetesi Dagens Nyheter\u2019de bir habere rastlad\u0131m: \u201cIrak \u00dczerine Televizyon R\u00f6portaj\u0131\u201d.<\/p>\n

Haber, Barbro Karabuda ve Kamiran Bedirxan\u2019\u0131n bir foto\u011fraf\u0131yla birlikte yay\u0131mlanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Bu haberde, belgesel\/r\u00f6portaj\u0131n g\u00f6steriminden \u00f6nce \u015f\u00f6yle deniyordu:\u00a0\u201cTelevizyon bu ak\u015fam saat 22.10-22.25 aras\u0131nda Barbro Karabuda\u2019n\u0131n Irak\u2019taki kritik durum hakk\u0131nda K\u00fcrt emiri Kamiran Bedirxan ile yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 g\u00fcncel r\u00f6portaj\u0131 yay\u0131nlayacak. Dr. Bedirxan, Kurdistan d\u0131\u015f\u0131ndaki K\u00fcrt \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fck m\u00fccadelesinin \u00f6nc\u00fcs\u00fc. Daha \u00f6nce New York\u2019ta halk\u0131n\u0131n taleplerini Birle\u015fmi\u015f Milletler \u00e7evrelerine sunmu\u015ftu. R\u00f6portaj \u0130sve\u00e7 Televizyonu ad\u0131na Paris\u2019te ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirildi ve daha \u00f6nce Frans\u0131z Televizyonuna sat\u0131ld\u0131\u201d<\/em>\u00a0[1].<\/p>\n

Bu haber sonradan iki kez daha kar\u015f\u0131ma \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131, bir kez Barbro Karabuda hakk\u0131nda bir yaz\u0131 haz\u0131rlarken [2], bir kez de \u0130sve\u00e7 bas\u0131n\u0131nda K\u00fcrtler hakk\u0131nda bir kitap [3] yazarken g\u00fcndemime geldi.<\/p>\n

Soru ve cevaplar Frans\u0131zca. Barbro Karabuda, Kamiran Bedirxan\u2019a yakla\u015f\u0131k 16 soru soruyor ve o da bu sorular\u0131 yan\u0131tl\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

\u0130lk sorular n\u00fcfus, K\u00fcrtlerin kom\u015fular\u0131, K\u00fcrtlerin k\u00f6keni gibi konular \u00fczerine. Baz\u0131 sorular G\u00fcney K\u00fcrdistanl\u0131lar\u0131n durumu ve Mustafa Barzani hakk\u0131nda. \u00d6zerklik ve ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131k gibi sorular da r\u00f6portaj\u0131n konular\u0131 aras\u0131nda. Baz\u0131 sorular K\u00fcrt-Amerikan ili\u015fkileri ve Kamiran Bedirxan\u2019\u0131n bu ili\u015fkilerdeki rol\u00fc \u00fczerine.<\/p>\n

R\u00f6portaj\u0131n yay\u0131nlanmas\u0131ndan bir g\u00fcn sonra Svenska Dagbladet gazetesi birka\u00e7 c\u00fcmleyle, K\u00fcrtlerin tarihi ve \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fck m\u00fccadeleleri hakk\u0131ndaki r\u00f6portaj\u0131n \u00f6nemini okuyucular\u0131na hat\u0131rlat\u0131yor [4]. Barbro Karabuda a\u015fa\u011f\u0131daki foto\u011frafta ve r\u00f6portaj i\u00e7indeki foto\u011frafta g\u00f6r\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fc gibi farkl\u0131 k\u0131yafetler giymi\u015f.<\/p>\n

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Barbro Karabuda ve dilbilimci Kamiran Bedirxan\u2019\u0131n Paris\u2019te ve \u0130sve\u00e7\u2019te birka\u00e7 kez g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fckleri anla\u015f\u0131l\u0131yor. Kamiran Bedirxan 1971 y\u0131l\u0131nda \u0130sve\u00e7\u2019e gelmi\u015f ve burada bir grup K\u00fcrt\u2019e K\u00fcrt\u00e7e kursu vermi\u015f. Bu d\u00f6nemde kendisiyle bir r\u00f6portaj yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f ve bir \u0130sve\u00e7 gazetesinde yay\u0131mlanm\u0131\u015f [5]. Birka\u00e7 y\u0131l \u00f6nce Kamiran Bedirxan\u2019\u0131n \u0130sve\u00e7\u2019te \u00f6\u011fretmenlik yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 d\u00f6nemden baz\u0131 foto\u011fraflar\u0131n\u0131 Twitter \u00fczerinden payla\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda, K\u00fcrtlerin b\u00fcy\u00fck ilgisini \u00e7ekmi\u015fti.<\/p>\n

Barbro Karabuda kimdir?<\/h2>\n

Barbro Karabuda (1935-2017) \u0130sve\u00e7li bir gazeteci ve yazard\u0131r. T\u00fcrk foto\u011fraf\u00e7\u0131 ve yazar G\u00fcne\u015f Karabuda (1933-2018) ile evlenmi\u015ftir. Evlenmeden \u00f6nce soyad\u0131 Gidlund\u2019du. Paris\u2019te tan\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015flard\u0131. Barbro Karabuda \u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcne kadar onlarca kitap yazm\u0131\u015f ve y\u00fczlerce yaz\u0131 yay\u0131mlam\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Yay\u0131nlar\u0131n\u0131n temel konular\u0131ndan biri K\u00fcrtlerin durumu olmu\u015ftur. 1960 y\u0131l\u0131nda \u201cF\u0131rat\u2019\u0131n Do\u011fusu \u2013 K\u00fcrtlerin \u00dclkesinde\u201d adl\u0131 kitab\u0131n\u0131 yay\u0131mlad\u0131 [6]. D\u00f6rt y\u0131l \u00f6nce bir tweet\u2019le bu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fman\u0131n \u00f6nemini \u015f\u00f6yle dile getirmi\u015ftim: \u201c\u0130sve\u00e7li yazar Barbro Karabuda 1960\u2019larda, kalemiyle T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki K\u00fcrt sorununu \u00e7evreleyen tabu ve sessizlik duvar\u0131n\u0131 y\u0131kt\u0131\u201d (27-5-2020).<\/p>\n

Bu kitaptan sonra T\u00fcrk polis ve istihbarat g\u00fc\u00e7lerinin g\u00f6z\u00fc hep \u00fczerinde olmu\u015f, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye giri\u015f \u00e7\u0131k\u0131\u015flar\u0131 \u00e7o\u011fu zaman tutuklamalar ve sorgulamalarla ge\u00e7mi\u015ftir. Muhalif ve cesur bir gazeteci olmu\u015ftur. Her zaman K\u00fcrtlerin haklar\u0131 ve k\u00fclt\u00fcrlerinin korunmas\u0131 i\u00e7in sesini y\u00fckseltmi\u015ftir.<\/p>\n

Kamiran Bedirxan, Tar\u0131k Ziya Ekinci, Ya\u015far Kemal ve Selahaddin Rastgeldi gibi tan\u0131nm\u0131\u015f K\u00fcrtlerle tan\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015f, onlarla dost olmu\u015ftur. E\u015fi G\u00fcne\u015f Karabuda (1933-2018) foto\u011fraf\u00e7\u0131 ve yazard\u0131. E\u015fiyle birlikte bir\u00e7ok belgesel film \u00e7ekmi\u015ftir. Barbro Karabuda\u2019n\u0131n \u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcnden bir y\u0131l \u00f6nce onun hakk\u0131nda uzun bir biyografi haz\u0131rlad\u0131m ve K\u00fcrt Tarihi dergisinde yay\u0131mlad\u0131m. O d\u00f6nem \u00e7ok hastayd\u0131. Bu nedenle bana yan\u0131t veremedi. Ancak bir s\u00fcre sonra bana e-posta yoluyla \u015fu mesaj\u0131 g\u00f6nderdi: \u201cDe\u011ferli Rohat. K\u00fcrt Tarihi\u2019ndeki yaz\u0131n i\u00e7in i\u00e7ten te\u015fekk\u00fcrler. Ne g\u00f6r\u00fclmemi\u015f bir ara\u015ft\u0131rma \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131! Size daha erken te\u015fekk\u00fcr edecektim ama hasta idim\/hastay\u0131m. Hepinize en iyi dileklerimi g\u00f6nderiyorum!<\/em>\u201d (31-3-2016). G\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fc\u015fe g\u00f6re yaz\u0131 onu \u00e7ok mutlu etmi\u015f, bu mesajla memnuniyetini ifade etmi\u015fti. Barbro Karabuda ve e\u015fi G\u00fcne\u015f Karabuda\u2019n\u0131n hayat\u0131 hakk\u0131nda ilgin\u00e7 baz\u0131 kaynaklar var [7].<\/p>\n

1961 y\u0131l\u0131nda Barbro Karabuda bir ekiple A\u011fr\u0131 ve Cizre b\u00f6lgesine gider. Ekip Barbro Karabuda, karde\u015fi Krister, e\u015fi G\u00fcne\u015f Karabuda ve \u00fcnl\u00fc foto\u011fraf\u00e7\u0131 Ara G\u00fcler\u2019den olu\u015fur. Bilindi\u011fi gibi Kuran\u2019a g\u00f6re Nuh\u2019un Gemisi Cudi Da\u011f\u0131\u2019na, \u0130ncil\u2019e g\u00f6re A\u011fr\u0131 Da\u011f\u0131\u2019na oturmu\u015ftur. K\u0131sacas\u0131 bu efsanevi gemi ilk kez Kurdistan\u2019da g\u00f6r\u00fcnm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr. Barbro Karabuda ve arkada\u015flar\u0131 bu konu \u00fczerine bir belgesel film haz\u0131rlarlar ve film daha sonra \u0130sve\u00e7 Televizyonu\u2019nda g\u00f6sterilir [8]. G\u00f6r\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fc gibi 1960\u2019lar\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131nda Barbro Karabuda bu \u00fc\u00e7 eseriyle yani K\u00fcrtler hakk\u0131ndaki kitab\u0131 (1960), Nuh\u2019un Gemisi ve Tufan hakk\u0131ndaki belgesel film (1961) ve Kamiran Bedirxan ile r\u00f6portaj\u0131n haz\u0131rlanmas\u0131 (1962) ile \u0130sve\u00e7lilerin dikkatini K\u00fcrt tarihi ve k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcne \u00e7ekmi\u015ftir.<\/p>\n

Be\u015f y\u0131l ge\u00e7ti, bu y\u0131l (2024) akl\u0131ma bu belgesel\/r\u00f6portaj\u0131n bir kopyas\u0131n\u0131 bulup \u00fczerine bir \u015feyler yazmay\u0131 ve tan\u0131tmay\u0131 koydum. \u0130sve\u00e7 Radyosu\u2019nda \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan gazeteci Be\u015fir Kavak\u2019tan bu belgesel\/r\u00f6portaj\u0131n bir kopyas\u0131n\u0131 bulmak i\u00e7in ricada bulundum. O da bir arkada\u015f\u0131n\u0131n yard\u0131m\u0131yla \u0130sve\u00e7 Televizyonu ar\u015fivlerinden bir kopyas\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131p bana ula\u015ft\u0131rd\u0131. Hem bu yard\u0131m i\u00e7in hem de a\u015fa\u011f\u0131daki r\u00f6portaj\u0131n \u00e7evirisi i\u00e7in arkada\u015f\u0131m Be\u015fir Kavak\u2019a \u00e7ok te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim.<\/p>\n

Kamiran Bedirxan ile R\u00f6portaj (1962)<\/h2>\n

Emir, Orta Do\u011fu\u2019daki K\u00fcrtlerin say\u0131s\u0131 hakk\u0131nda do\u011fru bilgi edinmek her zaman \u00e7ok zor olmu\u015ftur. Size soray\u0131m, Orta Do\u011fu\u2019da ka\u00e7 K\u00fcrt ya\u015f\u0131yor?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 Kurdistan\u2019\u0131n n\u00fcfusu 12 milyondur. 6 milyon K\u00fcrt T\u00fcrkiye K\u00fcrdistan\u0131\u2019nda, 4 milyon \u0130ran K\u00fcrdistan\u0131\u2019nda ve yakla\u015f\u0131k 2 milyon da Irak K\u00fcrdistan\u0131\u2019nda ya\u015f\u0131yor. Suriye\u2019de de 500.000 ki\u015filik \u00f6nemli bir az\u0131nl\u0131k var.<\/p>\n

K\u00fcrtler ile kom\u015fular\u0131 aras\u0131nda g\u00f6ze \u00e7arpan b\u00fcy\u00fck farklar var m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 San\u0131r\u0131m var. K\u00fcrtler k\u00f6ken olarak Hint-Avrupal\u0131d\u0131r, ancak kom\u015fular\u0131m\u0131z, \u00f6rne\u011fin T\u00fcrkler k\u00f6ken olarak Altayl\u0131 ve Araplar da Samidir. Bizimle \u0130ranl\u0131lar veya Farslar aras\u0131nda bir akrabal\u0131k var \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc onlar da k\u00f6ken olarak Hint-Avrupal\u0131 ve dilimiz de Hint-Avrupa dilidir.<\/p>\n

Bu \u00fclkelerdeki K\u00fcrtlerin siyasi durumu nas\u0131l?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 Kurdistan \u00fc\u00e7 devlet aras\u0131nda b\u00f6l\u00fcnm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr: T\u00fcrkiye, \u0130ran ve Irak. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de durum \u00e7ok k\u00f6t\u00fc \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc T\u00fcrkiye h\u00fck\u00fcmeti K\u00fcrt halk\u0131n\u0131n varl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 bile ink\u00e2r ediyor. \u00c7eyrek as\u0131rd\u0131r K\u00fcrtlere \u2018da\u011f T\u00fcrkleri\u2019 demeye al\u0131\u015ft\u0131lar. \u0130ran\u2019da durum b\u00f6yle de\u011fil. \u0130ran h\u00fck\u00fcmeti hi\u00e7bir zaman K\u00fcrt halk\u0131n\u0131n varl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ink\u00e2r etmedi. \u0130ran\u2019da Kurdistan ad\u0131nda bir vilayet var. K\u00fcrt halk\u0131n\u0131n k\u00fclt\u00fcrel ve ekonomik \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc i\u00e7in taleplerimiz hen\u00fcz kabul edilmedi, ama \u0130ran h\u00fck\u00fcmeti en az\u0131ndan K\u00fcrt halk\u0131n\u0131n varl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ink\u00e2r etmiyor. Irak\u2019ta, biliyorsunuz ki Birinci D\u00fcnya Sava\u015f\u0131\u2019ndan sonra G\u00fcney Kurdistan ilhak edildi, Irak\u2019\u0131n, Irak\u2019\u0131n Arap k\u0131sm\u0131n\u0131n, G\u00fcney Kurdistan olmadan ekonomik a\u00e7\u0131dan yetersiz ve asker\u00ee a\u00e7\u0131dan savunulamaz oldu\u011fu iddia ediliyordu. Ancak, Irak K\u00fcrdistan\u0131\u2019n\u0131n Sevr Antla\u015fmas\u0131\u2019na g\u00f6re, ya da 1922\u2019deki \u0130ngiliz h\u00fck\u00fcmetinin bildirisi ya da 1958 anayasas\u0131n\u0131n 3. maddesine g\u00f6re \u00f6zerkli\u011fini kazanmas\u0131 gerekiyordu.<\/p>\n

1958 Irak devriminden sonra, g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fc\u015fe g\u00f6re siz K\u00fcrtler Kas\u0131m\u2019\u0131 seviyordunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 Evet, ama 1920 ve 1919\u2019da T\u00fcrkiye ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in m\u00fccadele ederken de \u00f6yleydi. K\u00fcrtler, b\u00fcy\u00fck bir sadakatle, T\u00fcrklerin taraf\u0131n\u0131 tuttular. Ve Lozan Antla\u015fmas\u0131\u2019n\u0131n haz\u0131rlanmas\u0131 ve m\u00fczakeresi s\u0131ras\u0131nda, Say\u0131n \u0130smet \u0130n\u00f6n\u00fc defalarca T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin iki halk\u0131n \u00fclkesi oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yledi: T\u00fcrkler ve K\u00fcrtler. Ancak zorluklar ge\u00e7ince, t\u00fcm bunlar unutuldu. Ayn\u0131 politika Kas\u0131m taraf\u0131ndan da izlendi. Ba\u015flang\u0131\u00e7ta, Kas\u0131m durumundan pek emin de\u011fildi, bu y\u00fczden devrim kar\u015f\u0131t\u0131 unsurlara kar\u015f\u0131 sava\u015fmak i\u00e7in K\u00fcrtlere yakla\u015ft\u0131. Ama durumunun art\u0131k yeterince g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc oldu\u011funa inand\u0131\u011f\u0131nda, K\u00fcrtlere sald\u0131rd\u0131.<\/p>\n

Ve bug\u00fcn, Irak\u2019ta ne oluyor?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 Bug\u00fcn sava\u015f var, ama b\u00fcy\u00fck sava\u015flar daha \u00f6nce oldu. Bug\u00fcn neredeyse t\u00fcm Irak K\u00fcrdistan\u0131 K\u00fcrtlerin kontrol\u00fcnde. K\u00fcrtler, sivilleri hava sald\u0131r\u0131lar\u0131ndan korumak i\u00e7in Musul, Kerk\u00fck, S\u00fcleymaniye veya Erbil gibi Irak K\u00fcrdistan\u0131\u2019n\u0131n b\u00fcy\u00fck \u015fehirlerinin kontrol\u00fcn\u00fc almad\u0131lar. San\u0131r\u0131m bunu biliyorsunuz, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc t\u00fcm d\u00fcnya bas\u0131n\u0131 zaten bu konu hakk\u0131nda haber yay\u0131nlad\u0131. K\u00fcrt sava\u015f\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131 yenemeyece\u011fini anlayan Irak ordusu, korkak\u00e7a sivil k\u00f6ylere sald\u0131r\u0131yor ve kad\u0131n ve \u00e7ocuklar\u0131 \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fcyor.<\/p>\n

Irak\u2019taki K\u00fcrt hareketine liderlik eden Mustafa Barzani kimdir?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 Mustafa Barzani, G\u00fcney Kurdistan\u2019\u0131n \u00e7ok eski ve sayg\u0131n bir ailesinin torunudur. Mahabad Cumhuriyeti taraf\u0131ndan general olarak atanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131 ve bug\u00fcn ger\u00e7ekten de K\u00fcrtlerin mill\u00ee kahraman\u0131 oldu\u011fu s\u00f6ylenebilir.<\/p>\n

Neden ona k\u0131z\u0131l general diyorlar?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 Bu \u00e7ok eski bir hik\u00e2ye. 1925\u2019te, K\u00fcrtler T\u00fcrkiye h\u00fck\u00fcmetine kar\u015f\u0131 ayakland\u0131\u011f\u0131nda, Mustafa Kemal \u0130ngilizlerin K\u00fcrtlerin arkas\u0131nda oldu\u011funu iddia etti. O zamanlar T\u00fcrkiye Sovyetler Birli\u011fi\u2019nin m\u00fcttefikiydi. Bug\u00fcn T\u00fcrkiye Bat\u0131\u2019n\u0131n m\u00fcttefiki, bu y\u00fczden General G\u00fcrsel teredd\u00fct etmeden \u201cBarzani\u2019nin arkas\u0131nda kimin oldu\u011funu biliyoruz\u201d dedi. San\u0131r\u0131m General G\u00fcrsel benim ya\u015f\u0131t\u0131m ve bu ya\u015fta insan biraz daha ciddi olmal\u0131, de\u011fil mi?<\/p>\n

Kas\u0131m\u2019\u0131n ordusunda Barzani\u2019nin K\u00fcrt g\u00fc\u00e7lerine kar\u015f\u0131 sava\u015fan ka\u00e7 K\u00fcrt askeri var h\u00e2l\u00e2?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 \u015eu anda belki 8000 kadar K\u00fcrt askeri vard\u0131r, ancak g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fc\u015fe g\u00f6re K\u00fcrt g\u00fc\u00e7lerine kar\u015f\u0131 sava\u015fmak i\u00e7in g\u00f6nderilmemi\u015fler, daha \u00e7ok Kuveyt s\u0131n\u0131r\u0131 b\u00f6lgesindeler.<\/p>\n

Evet, \u015fu anda sadece Irak\u2019taki K\u00fcrt davas\u0131n\u0131 m\u0131 savunuyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 Evet, do\u011fru. \u00dcstelik, Irak\u2019ta bile, bildi\u011finiz gibi, toprak b\u00fct\u00fcnl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcne sayg\u0131 g\u00f6stermek istiyoruz, yani K\u00fcrtler Irak\u2019tan ayr\u0131lmak istemiyor. Ancak Irak \u00e7er\u00e7evesinde ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z bir devlet olmas\u0131n\u0131 istiyorlar.<\/p>\n

Bir s\u00fcre \u00f6nce Amerika\u2019y\u0131 ziyaret ettiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 Evet. New York ve Washington\u2019dayd\u0131m. \u0130lgili \u00e7evrelerle temas kurdum ve yak\u0131nda tekrar oraya gidece\u011fim. Ana ama\u00e7, K\u00fcrt halk\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 i\u015flenen soyk\u0131r\u0131mlar\u0131 belgelemek i\u00e7in Irak K\u00fcrdistan\u0131\u2019na bir ara\u015ft\u0131rma komisyonu g\u00f6ndermeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmak.<\/p>\n

Amerika\u2019dan destek istediniz mi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 New York Times\u2019ta General Barzani\u2019den bir a\u00e7\u0131klama oldu\u011funu elbette biliyorsunuz, ama ne kadar do\u011fru oldu\u011funu bilmiyorum.<\/p>\n

Hedeflerinize ula\u015fmak i\u00e7in d\u0131\u015f yard\u0131m mutlak bir gereklilik mi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 Tamamen d\u0131\u015f yard\u0131ma muhta\u00e7 oldu\u011fumuzu s\u00f6yleyemem. Ancak \u015fu anda k\u00f6t\u00fc durumda olan, evsiz barks\u0131z kalan ve Kurdistan\u2019\u0131n zorlu k\u0131\u015flar\u0131yla kar\u015f\u0131 kar\u015f\u0131ya olan siviller i\u00e7in \u2013 bir ay sonra s\u0131f\u0131r\u0131n alt\u0131nda 20 dereceyi g\u00f6rece\u011fiz \u2013 ger\u00e7ekten d\u00fcnyadan, say\u0131lar\u0131 100.000\u2019i a\u015fan ma\u011fdur K\u00fcrtlere destek vermesi i\u00e7in yard\u0131m istiyoruz.<\/p>\n

\u015eu anki uluslararas\u0131 durum Irak\u2019taki K\u00fcrt \u00f6zerkli\u011fi i\u00e7in uygun mu?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 San\u0131r\u0131m d\u00fcnyadaki t\u00fcm halklar\u0131n \u00f6zg\u00fcrle\u015fti\u011fi bir \u00e7a\u011fda ya\u015f\u0131yoruz. Bu y\u00fczden K\u00fcrtlerin neden \u00f6zerklik haklar\u0131n\u0131 elde etmemeleri gerekti\u011fini anlam\u0131yorum.<\/p>\n

Irak\u2019ta K\u00fcrt \u00f6zerkli\u011fini elde ederseniz, topraklar\u0131n\u0131zdaki petrolden yararlanma imkanlar\u0131n\u0131z ne olacak?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 Elbette Irak h\u00fck\u00fcmeti ve petrol \u015firketleriyle bir anla\u015fma olacak. Biz s\u00f6ylendi\u011fi gibi sab\u0131rs\u0131z insanlar de\u011filiz. Sadece haklar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n pe\u015findeyiz. D\u00fcnyan\u0131n t\u00fcm halklar\u0131 gibi, insanca ve onurlu bir ya\u015fam\u0131n \u015fartlar\u0131na sahip olmak istiyoruz.<\/p>\n

\u0130nsan K\u00fcrt a\u015firetleri aras\u0131ndaki anla\u015fmazl\u0131klar hakk\u0131nda \u00e7ok \u015fey duyuyor. K\u00fcrtler bar\u0131\u015f i\u00e7inde bir arada ya\u015fayamaz m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 Elbette K\u00fcrtler bir arada ya\u015fayabilir, ama t\u00fcm halklarda fikir ayr\u0131l\u0131klar\u0131 vard\u0131r. D\u00fcnyan\u0131n en geli\u015fmi\u015f halklar\u0131na bak\u0131n, g\u00f6receksiniz ki her zaman fikir ayr\u0131l\u0131klar\u0131 ve zorluklar vard\u0131r.<\/p>\n

Irak\u2019taki mevcut K\u00fcrt durumunda sizin ki\u015fisel rol\u00fcn\u00fcz nedir ve muhtemel bir \u00f6zerklikte pozisyonunuz ne olacak?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 \u015eu anda \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fckleri i\u00e7in m\u00fccadele eden K\u00fcrtleri temsil ediyorum. Avrupa ve Amerika\u2019da \u00e7e\u015fitli giri\u015fimlerde bulunuyorum. Kurdistan ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z oldu\u011funda, bu cumhuriyetin ve bu devletin en iddias\u0131z vatanda\u015flar\u0131ndan biri olaca\u011f\u0131m.<\/p>\n

Kaynaklar<\/strong><\/p>\n

[1] TV Intervju om Irak, Dagens Nyheter, 22-10-1962.\u00a0[2] Rohat Alakom, Barbro Karabuda K\u00fcrtlerin \u00dclkesinde, K\u00fcrt Tarihi, say\u0131 22\/2016.\u00a0[3] Rohat Alakom, \u0130sve\u00e7 Bas\u0131n\u0131nda Kurdistan Tarihi, Apec, 2019, s.47, dipnot 98.\u00a0[4] TV Rutan, Svenska Dagbladet, 23-2-1962.\u00a0[5] Dagens Nyheter, 22-10-1962.\u00a0[6] Barbro Karabuda, F\u0131rat\u2019\u0131n Do\u011fusu \u2013 K\u00fcrtlerin \u00dclkesinde, 1960.\u00a0[7] G\u00fcne\u015f Karabuda, Zaman Bah\u00e7esine \u0130ndim, YKY, 1998. G\u00fclseren Engstr\u00f6m, Ge\u00e7mi\u015fle Kolkola-G\u00fcne\u015f Karabuda, Cem Yay\u0131nlar\u0131, 2009.\u00a0[8] Noak och syndafloden, Dagens Nyheter, 24-12-1961.<\/p>\n

\/Kaynak: Botan Times\/<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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